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- Re: looking for dealers that keep their own tips!! I don't have your answer, but have to tell you about a friend's son. He was dealing on a local casino boat and a high roller wanted to tip him $10,000. He told him he had to put it in the kitty.
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Table for table and crew for crew is the same thing. It's basically 'go for your own' (you keep your own tips) -- but that'd be difficult to do on a craps game, so each of the 4 dealers split the tokes. But other dealers (blackjack, roulette, etc.) would go for their own and they wouldn't all share their tips.
ah, i see. thank you.
this 'free market'-if-you-will approach is very, very rare indeed...tom 'home runs are often boring' p
Off topic from your question, but I'm curious to how first timers respond to California craps. Is there a general aversion to the game due to California laws, or do people reluctantly accept it, knowing its the best they can get?
General aversion is a good way of putting it, but we do get some decent action occasionally. At the casino I work at, in particular, the players do get to roll dice so they at least have SOME control over what's happening. There are some casinos out here that just pull cards out of an automatic shuffler and what you see is what you get.
A lot of the time, the first-timers who come to the table don't have a very good conception of the game in the first place; they make a fuss about it not being Vegas-style, but are playing $5 on the line with no odds, and occasional field bets. Some people accept it and others don't, but genuine craps players will still give it a go, because the odds are better than any other game in our house.
dealer uniforms lack pockets and tips go into a tip box with a good loud rap and a 'toking up a black' sung out.
tip boxes in most casinos are taken at the same time as drop boxes are taken and are pooled. every blackjack dealer in town thinks he carries all the other blackjack dealers who are really unsmiling deadwood that never get tipped. this psychological tip dilution is sometimes the reason a casino switches to table for table or some system wherein dilution is avoided and service is rewarded directly.
the trouble is that some players will play all night and then toke the incoming dice crew or something like that.
Most casinos do allow individual tokes to dice dealers if you speak to the floor person/pit boss about it, but I think it takes five hundred dollars or something. below five hundred they say, tip the crew. above five hundred, and you can tip an individual dice dealer or buy him a new car or something. the casino will handle it. Obviously, its well beyond fleastiff's experience.
But in my case it would feel seriously silly to do this with red or green toke anyway...
somewhere on the forum i read it was appropriate to hand out a 'gift' in an envelope, away from the table.
You can always give a dealer a 'birthday card'.Table for table and crew for crew is the same thing. It's basically 'go for your own' (you keep your own tips) -- but that'd be difficult to do on a craps game, so each of the 4 dealers split the tokes. But other dealers (blackjack, roulette, etc.) would go for their own and they wouldn't all share their tips.
How does that work when the two base dealers, stick person, and box person rotate in and out for breaks and sometimes come back on other tables?I've been wondering how tipping in craps works. I've read that tips should be placed on the pass / don't pass line along with odds instead of on middle 'sucker' bets. If the bet wins, do the dealers get only the winnings or do they get the base bet/odds as well?
The dealers get the full win. Dealer line bets are popular, and, 'Giving them shoes,' (Putting Dealer Odds behind) will make you popular with them...lol
They get the win and the original bet. If you want them to have 100% EV, though, you can just toss the chips towards the supervisor and say, 'Lock it up.' Dealers to whom I have spoken have varied opinions on whether they'd prefer a bet or a hand in.
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Some dealers like Center Action because of the pays. That's why, 'Two-Way Yo,' is a popular bet.Personally, I like handing it in, but sometimes bet if I have a hot hand...even though it doesn't affect the probability of them winning.
Regardless of what you bet, a good crew will always thank you for the try on a loss. I'm known as a solid tipper, but if a crew were to fail, more than once, to thank me for the bet, then they've got everything they're going to get from me that day.
I'm going to Vegas next week and I'm planning to shoot some craps, so I was curious. I'm going to tip either way, but if I know they get to keep what they make off me I'll give more.
Thank you.
For tipping is a question of fairness. I owned a retail bakery for a number of years and our'
help did a good job making sure the people got what they wanted and when they got it
home it looked like what they bought....
In general they got no tips.... and did not ask for any
So when I started playing craps etc I did not tip because I was used to people
doing their jobs without tips. Later when I understood dealers many times make
their money from tips I started tipping. I try to put a dollar on the line and another on
top of my pass line bet and that way they play along when I shoot or if hardways
are active I will place a bet there at times and always a bet on bets like fire bet
or ATS .
What I wont do is place a tip if I am pressures to......period.
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My understanding is that tips are pooled by PIT. So a dice pit and BJ pit are separate. A Carney Games Pit is separate also.
Please understand that in Las Vegas a casino may arrange to pick up their Drop Boxes at ANY time, but once the schedule has been set, there is a 'Two minutes or its Paperwork Time'. If more than two minutes early or late, paperwork has to be filled explaining to the tax authorities why there was a deviation.
Tip boxes are treated the same way as drop boxes. Tip boxes are counted by volunteers from the Toke Committee, except at venetian/palazzo where only management counts tips. All tokes go to the Toke Fund, all management fees for the toke fund are paid by the casino from the casino's funds, not from the toke fund. Arrangements for vacation tokes, hardship tokes, berevement tokes are by the Toke Committee.
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As a craps dealer in CA, it doesn't take very much for me to tip dealers when I'm on the other side of the table. But in Vegas, save a few casinos, I understand the heavy majority of the casinos pool tips. So, my question is: Do the tokes dice dealers make go into the general pool of tips for all dealers on that gaming day, or are they kept separate?
I'm going to Vegas next week and I'm planning to shoot some craps, so I was curious. I'm going to tip either way, but if I know they get to keep what they make off me I'll give more.
Thank you.
There are four casinos in Las Vegas that go 'table for table.'
1) Silverton Casino
2) Hooters (ownership just changed, FYI)
3) Westin
4) Ellis Island
As a craps dealer in CA, it doesn't take very much for me to tip dealers when I'm on the other side of the table. But in Vegas, save a few casinos, I understand the heavy majority of the casinos pool tips. So, my question is: Do the tokes dice dealers make go into the general pool of tips for all dealers on that gaming day, or are they kept separate?
Off topic from your question, but I'm curious to how first timers respond to California craps. Is there a general aversion to the game due to California laws, or do people reluctantly accept it, knowing its the best they can get?There are four casinos in Las Vegas that go 'table for table.'
1) Silverton Casino
2) Hooters (ownership just changed, FYI)
3) Westin
4) Ellis Island
this is a subject in which i have great, genuine curiosity...
what does 'table for table.' mean exactly? how does it relate to 'crew for crew' or even to the individual dealer?
a follow up question might be whether anyone attributes this rather rare policy to any
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perceived difference in service or in 'vibe' even...it would also be interesting to know if the change in ownership at Hooters will result, down the line, in any change in policy in this regard...
tom 'home runs are often boring' pthis is a subject in which i have great, genuine curiosity...
what does 'table for table.' mean exactly? how does it relate to 'crew for crew' or even to the individual dealer?
a follow up question might be whether anyone attributes this rather rare policy to any perceived difference in service or in 'vibe' even...it would also be interesting to know if the change in ownership at Hooters will result, down the line, in any change in policy in this regard...
tom 'home runs are often boring' p
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Table for table and crew for crew is the same thing. It's basically 'go for your own' (you keep your own tips) -- but that'd be difficult to do on a craps game, so each of the 4 dealers split the tokes. But other dealers (blackjack, roulette, etc.) would go for their own and they wouldn't all share their tips.Las Vegas Dealership
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